SKILL POINT?!? Ma dove ti metto? (post BB inside)

[Fabio~]

onde evitare millantamila topic sugli stessi 6 argomenti
riuniamo qui un po di conoscenze comuni con l'aiuto di tutti...

cosa principale:
"SEI RIUSCITO A LOGGARE?" buon per te!
"HAI RICEVUTO UN SP RESET?" wow!

se stai cercando un modo per distribuire gli SP in modo ottimale, tenendo conto che sei gia avanti con i livelli, sei nel posto giusto...

"NON HAI CAPITO UN CAVOLO?"
Riassumendo: Dato che tutti avranno resettato tutte le proprie skill.. vediamo di raggruppare tutte le build considerando quali sono le skill "obbligatorie" e quali no, quali restano utili per un 4th jobber e quali no...
siamo liberi di discuterne e aggiornero' tutto qui di seguito

CONTROLLATE BENE PRIMA DI ASSEGNARE I PUNTI CHE POI NON E' POSSIBILE TORNARE INDIETRO

OGNI SKILL POINT E' ASSEGNATO DA VOI ED E' VOSTRA SOLA RESPONSABILITA

quindi state attenti che magari per un errore di battitura e/o di distrazione magari scrivo 10 al posto di 1 e s******ate la build...

MI RACCOMANDO DI SEGNALARE EVENTUALI ERRORI ANCHE MINIMI CHE PROVVEDERO' A CORREGGERE ASAP

Primo Job: 61 punti (67 per un mago)
Secondo Job: 121 punti
Terzo job: 151 punti (mi pare)

Archer

Primo Job (61 punti):
Critical Shot: 20/20
The Eye of Amazon: 5/5
Focus: ?/15
Arrow Blow: ?/20
Double Shot: ?/20

Hunter > Ranger > Bow Master

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Crossbowman > Sniper > Marksman

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Magician

Primo Job (67 punti):
MP Boost: 10/10
Magic Guard: 15/15
Magic Armor : 15/15
Energy Bolt : restanti/20
Magic Claw: 20/20
eterno dilemma tra bolt e magic Armour
io preferisco armour dato che bolt verra presto sostituita
poi va a gusti

Fire/Poison

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Ice/Lightning

Scondo Job (121sp):

20 Spell Mastery (Maxed)
20 Thunderbolt (Maxed)
20 MP Eater (Maxed)
20 Meditation (Maxed)
20 Teleport (Maxed)
Slow (scegliere tra slow e cold beam, maxarne una e lasciate ad 1 l'altra )
Cold Beam (vedi riga precedente)

alternativamente io lascerei Meditation a 1 e maxerei il resto ma sono gusti personali
se avete dubbi chiedete che qualcuno vi rispondera'

Terzo job(151sp):

sulla linea del secondo job la guida dove sto guardando mette 2 varianti
una per chi ha maxato cold beam, l'altra per chi ha maxato slow

Cold Beam Followup-

+1 Teleport Mastery
+7 Ice Strike
+3 Elemental Amplification
+6 Spell Booster
+17 Elemental Amplification (Maxed)
+13 Ice Strike (Maxed)
+9 Teleport Mastery (Maxed)
+10 Elemental Decrease (Maxed)
+20 Thunder Spear (Maxed)
+14 Spell Booster (Maxed)
+20 Seal (Maxed)
+19 Slow (Maxed)
+12 Partial Resistance (12)

Slow Followup-

+1 Teleport Mastery
+7 Ice Strike
+3 Elemental Amplification
+6 Spell Booster
+17 Elemental Amplification (Maxed)
+13 Ice Strike (Maxed)
+9 Teleport Mastery (Maxed)
+10 Elemental Decrease (Maxed)
+20 Thunder Spear (Maxed)
+14 Spell Booster (Maxed)
+20 Seal (Maxed)
+11 [Or Element Composition (11)] Cold Beam (12)
+20 Partial Resistance (Maxed)

Cleric/Priest/Bishop

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Swordman

Primo Job (61 punti):
HP Boost: 10/10
Iron Body: ?/20
Power Strike: ?/20
Slash Blast : ?/20

Fighter > Crusader > Hero

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Page > White Knight > Paladin

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Spearman > Dragon Knight > Dark Knight

Scondo Job (121sp):
Terzo job(151sp):

Pirate

Brawler > Marauder > Buccaneer

Grazie a Marco per la guida

Primo Job (61 punti):

Somersault Kick (Max)
Flash Fist (Max)
Bullet Time (Max)
Dash (1) ?

Secondo Job (121sp):

Critical Punch (MAX)
Knuckle Mastery (MAX)
Backspin blow (se ho fatto bene i conti 20 quindi MAX)
HP increase (MAX)
Corkscrew blow (MAX)
MP recovery (se ho fatto bene i conti 10 quindi MAX)
Booster (MAX)
Oak barrel (MAX)
Double upper (MAX da maxare al 3rd)

Terzo job(151sp):

Advanced Infighting (non so cosa sia ?)
Energy Blast (MAX)
Energy charge (MAX)
Energy Drain (MAX)
Lucky Dice (MAX)
Stun Mastery (MAX)
Transform (MAX)
Double Upper (MAX), +2 free points

Gunslinger > Outlaw > Corsair

grazie ad harry!

Primo Job:

Bullet Time - 20 (MAXED)
Straight - 0
Somersault Kick - 11
Double Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Dash - 10 (MAXED)

Secondo Job (121sp):

Gun Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Shot - 10 (MAXED)
Invisible Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Grenade - 1
Gun Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Fake Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Wings - 10 (MAXED)
Backstep Shot - 20 (MAXED)

Terzo job(151sp):

Triple Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Octopus - 30 (MAXED)
Gaviota - 21
Flamethrower - 20 (MAXED)
Ice Splitter - 20 (MAXED)
Homing Beacon - 20 (MAXED)
Lucky Dice - 20 (MAXED)

Rogue

Assassin > Hermit > Night Lord

Primo Job (61 punti):

Summary - 1st
Nimble Body - 20 (MAXED)
Keen Eyes - 5 (MAXED)
Disorder - 6
Dark Sight - 10 (MAXED)
Lucky Seven - 20 (MAXED)
Double Stab - 0

Secondo Job (121sp):

Claw Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Throw - 30 (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance - 20 (MAXED)
Claw Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Haste - 20 (MAXED)
Drain - 11

(io ho optato per un 18 booster 13 drain che poi con il 3rd si finiscono di maxare ma perche sono ancora al 3rd)

Terzo job(151sp):

Alchemist - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Up - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Web - 0
Shadow Meso - 0
Avenger - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 20 (MAXED)
[Drain - 20 (MAXED)]
[SP remaining: 22] <- per booster e drain poi quel che ti pare

Bandit > Chief Bandit > Shadower

grazie a fra per la guida anche se poi ha postato tutto quello che non serviva

Primo Job (61 punti):

Classico

Double Stab (MAXED)
Dark Sight (MAXED)
Nimble Body (MAXED)
Disorder (MAXED)
1 Extra Skill Point to be placed anywhere.

New Sin-Dit AND Veteran Bandits

Lucky 7(MAXED)
Keen Eyes(MAXED)
Dark Sight(MAXED)
Disorder (MAXED)
Nimble Body (16)

Scondo Job (121sp):

Dagger Mastery (MAXED)
Savage Blow (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance (MAXED)
Haste (MAXED)
Steal (MAXED or Level 11 or in between)
Dagger Booster (Level 11 or MAXED or in between)

Terzo job(151sp):

by Harry

Shield Mastery - 10 (MAXED)
Chakra - 3
Assaulter - 20 (MAXED)
Pickpocket - 10 (MAXED)
Band of Thieves - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Guard - 10 (MAXED)
Meso Explosion - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 18
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)

Fino al Level 95:

Assaulter (Level 5)
Meso Guard (Level 1)
Chakra (Level 3)
Band of Thieves (MAXED)
Shadow Partner (MAXED)
Meso Explosion (MAXED)
Pickpocket (MAXED)

per dopo il 95 aspetto qualcuno, magari del global, che l'abbia gia' provato cosi' che possa consigliare per il meglio

Dual Blade

posto direttamente la build postata da sballo perche' non so bene come suddivisione
20: +20 Katara Mastery (20), +11 Katara Booster (11)
21: +3 Katara Booster (14)
22: +3 Disorder (3)
23: +3 Dark Sight (3)
24: +3 Dark Sight (6)
25: +3 Dark Sight (9)
26: +1 Dark Sight (10), +2 Nimble Body (2)
27: +3 Nimble Body (5)
28: +3 Nimble Body (
29: +3 Nimble Body (11)
30: +3 Nimble Body (14)
30: +1 Slash Storm (1)
31: +3 Slash Storm (4)
32: +2 Slash Storm (6 - 1 SP from mastery book), +2 Self-Haste (2)
33: +3 Self-Haste (5)
34: +3 Self-Haste (
35: +3 Self-Haste (11)
36: +3 Self-Haste (14)
37: +3 Self-Haste (17)
38: +3 Self-Haste (20)
39: +3 Slash Storm (9)
40: +3 Slash Storm (12)
41: +3 Slash Storm (15)
42: +3 Slash Storm (1
43: +2 Slash Storm (20), +1 Shadow Resistance (1)
44: +3 Shadow Resistance (4)
45: +3 Shadow Resistance (7)
46: +3 Shadow Resistance (10)
47: +3 Shadow Resistance (13)
48: +3 Shadow Resistance (16)
49: +3 Shadow Resistance (19)
50: +1 Shadow Resistance (20), +2 Fatal Blow (2)
51: +3 Fatal Blow (5)
52: +3 Fatal Blow (
53: +3 Fatal Blow (11)
54: +3 Fatal Blow (14)
55: +3 Fatal Blow (17)
55: No SP gained upon job advancement.
56: +1 Flash Jump (1), +2 Tornado Spin (2)
57: +3 Tornado Spin (5)
Save rest of SP.
70: +10 Bloody Storm (10), +11 Flying Assaulter (11 - 1 SP from FA mastery), +20 Upper Stab (20)
71: +4 Tornado Spin (9 - 1 SP from TS mastery)
72: +3 Tornado Spin (12)
73: +3 Tornado Spin (15)
74: +3 Tornado Spin (1
75: +2 Tornado Spin (20), +1 Flying Assaulter (12)
76: +3 Flying Assaulter (15)
77: +3 Flying Assaulter (1
78: +2 Flying Assaulter (20), +1 Mirror Image (1)
79: +3 Mirror Image (4)
80: +3 Mirror Image (7)
81: +3 Mirror Image (10)
82: +4 Mirror Image (14 - 1 SP from MI mastery)
83: +3 Mirror Image (17)
84: +3 Mirror Image (20)
85: +3 Mirror Image (23)
86: +3 Mirror Image (26)
87: +3 Mirror Image (29)
88: +1 Mirror Image (30), +2 Flash Jump (3)
89: +3 Flash Jump (6)
90: +3 Flash Jump (9)
91: +3 Flash Jump (12)
92: +3 Flash Jump (15)
93: +3 Flash Jump (1
94: +2 Flash Jump (20), +1 Fatal Blow (1
95: +3 Fatal Blow (21)
96: +3 Fatal Blow (24)
97: +3 Fatal Blow (27)
98: +3 Fatal Blow (30)
99: +3 Owl Spirit (3)
100: +3 Owl Spirit (6)
101: +3 Owl Spirit (9)
102: +3 Owl Spirit (12)
103: +3 Owl Spirit (15)
104: +3 Owl Spirit (1
105: +2 Owl Spirit (20), +1 Booster OR Nimble Body (15)
106: +3 Booster OR Nimble Body (1
107: +2 Booster OR Nimble Body (20), +1 Flash Bang (1)
108: +3 Flash Bang (4)
109: +3 Flash Bang (7)
110: +3 Flash Bang (10)
111: +3 Flash Bang (13)
112: +3 Flash Bang (16)
113: +3 Flash Bang (19)
114: +1 Flash Bang (20), +2 Advanced Dark Sight (2)
115: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (5)
116: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (
117: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (11)
118: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (14)
119: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (17)
120: +3 Advanced Dark Sight (20)

e' gradito l'aiuto di tutti

[Hvit]

visto che lo stavo guardando per il marauder:

Spoiler

10-16: Somersault Kick
17: +1 Somersault Kick (Max), +2 Flash fist (2)
18-23: Flash Fist (Max)
24-29: +3 Bullet Time
30: +2 Bullet Time (Max), +1 Dash

30: +1 Backspin blow
31: +1 Corkscrew, +2 Mastery
32: +3 Mastery
33: +3 Booster
34-36: +3 Critical Punch
37: +1 Critical Punch (MAX), +1 Backspin Blow, +1 Knuckle Mastery
38-41: +3 Knuckle Mastery
42: +2 Knuckle Mastery (MAX), +1 Backspin blow
43-47: +3 Backspin blow
48: +2 Backspin blow, +1 HP increase
49-51: +3 HP increase (MAX)
52-57: +3 Corkscrew blow
58: +1 Corkscrew blow (MAX), +2 MP recovery
59-60: +3 MP recovery
61: +2 MP recovery, +1 Booster
62-66: +3 Booster
67: +1 Booster (MAX), +2 Oak barrel
68-69: +3 Oak Barrel
70: +2 Oak barrel (MAX), +1 Double upper

70: Energy Charge
71: +1 Energy Drain, +1 Stun Mastery, +1 Energy Blast
72-74: Advanced Infighting
75: +1 Advanced Infighting, +2 Energy Charge
76-78: Energy charge (12)
79-84: +3 Energy Blast
85: +1 Energy Blast (MAX), +2 Energy Charge
86-87: Energy charge (MAX)
88-93: +3 Energy Drain
94: +1 Energy Drain (MAX), +2 Lucky Dice
95-100: Lucky Dice (MAX)
101-106: Stun mastery
107: +1 Stun Mastery (MAX), +2 Transform
108-113: +3 Transform (MAX)
114-119: +3 Double Upper
120: +1 Double Upper (MAX), +2 free points

120: +1 Barrage, +1 Speed Infusion, +1 Dragon Strike
121: +1 Time Leap, +1 Dragon Strike, +1 Super Transformation
122: +1 Snatch, +2 Dragon strike
123-130: Dragon Strike (MAX)
131-133: +3 Counter Attack
134: +1 Counter Attack (MAX), +2 Demolition
135-143: Demolition
144: +1 Demolition (MAX), +2 Super Transform
145-149: Super Transform
150: +2 Super Transform (MAX), +1 Maple Warrior
151-153: Maple Warrior (10)
154-156: Speed infusion (10, MAX)
157-166: Energy Orb (MAX)
167-175: Barrage
176: +2 Barrage (MAX), +1 Maple Warrior
177-182: Maple Warrior (29)
183-192: Time Leap (MAX)
193: +2 Hero's Will
194: +3 Hero's Will (Max)
195-200: Snatch (1

[Fra]

sembra abbastanza buona, poi ognuno dovrà cambiare qualche sp a seconda delle sue esigenze


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[Fabio~]

io pensavo piu di mettere i livelli massimi da assegnare alle varie skill invece di una guida livello per livello che trovo di difficile lettura se uno sta al 120+ e deve assegnarli tutti di blocco

[Fra]

c'è pure quello nella guida

[Fabio~]

c'è pure quello nella guida

se devo guardarmi 50 guide da 300 pagine finisco tra un mese

[Fra]

posto queste infos per aiutare fabio ad aggiornare il topic. Se in quache modo vi portano a commettere errori e/o a sbagliare builds etc, non è un mio problema; vedete di informarvi perfettamente sulle skills prima di assegnare sp a caso


1st 61

Spoiler

Nimble Body : Increases the Accuracy and Avoid-ability permanently.
Max Level 20:
Pre-Big Bang: Increases Accuracy and Avoid-ability by 20.
Post-Big Bang: Increases Accuracy and Avoid-ability by 60.
Formula : ACC = Avoid= 3 * Skill Level
The way miss-rate is calculated now is different than after the Big Bang, thus making this 40 Accuracy increase not that big of a deal. For more Information please visit the Miss-Rate System Section in Part II of the Guide.

Keen Eyes: Increases the range of throwing stars.
Increases the range of throwing stars to 200 at Max Level.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 8
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 5
Unless you are a Sin-Dit this doesn’t help or hurt you. If you are a Sin-Dit then you now have 3 extra skill points for free. Enjoy!

Disorder: Decreases the defense and physical attack of the enemy. The enemy will also stop attacking you.
Max Level 10:
Pre-Big Bang: -10 MP; Enemy's ATK -20, DEF -20 for 60 seconds
Post-Big Bang: -10 MP, -10% Defense, -20 attack for 60 seconds.
Formula: -Attack/2=-%Defense= Skill Level
Delay: 600ms – Faster [2]; 690ms – Fast [4]
Reduces Defense by % now, which makes sense since Monsters have a PDRate now for Defense. For more information please refer to the Monster’s Defense and Attack System. There is no info yet, as to whether Disorder works or not in Bosses. I will try it on Dojo as soon as the Big Bang hits Global Maple Story.

Dark Sight: Hide in the shadows so you won't be seen by the enemy. However, you also can't attack.
-5 MP, hide in the shadow for 200 seconds, no speed reduction at Max Level.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 20
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 10
Formula: 3*Skill Level – 30 = Speed Reduction; Skill Level*2 = Skill Duration
Delay: 100ms
Nobody should wait until second job to Max Dark Sight now.

Double Stab: Swiftly stab an enemy twice with a dagger.
Max Level 20:
Pre-Big Bang: -14 MP, 140% Damage each stab.
Post-Big Bang: -14 MP, 130% Damage each stab.
Formula: Damage per Stab = 70%+3%*Skill Level
Delay: 600ms - Faster[2] ; 720ms - Fast[4]
20% Damage decrease total. Well we couldn’t get everything buffed, huh?

Lucky Seven: Throw two stars to the enemy.
Max Level 20:
Pre-Big Bang: MP -16; Damage 150% x 2 Hits
Post-Big Bang: -14 MP, 170% Damage each star.
Formula: Damage per Star = 90%+4%*Skill Level
Delay: 720ms *The Delay is for Fast (4) Claw, without Booster, since we don’t have Claw Booster.
Just as Keen Eyes, if you are not a Sin-Dit this change does not affect you. If you are a Sin-Dit then you get 40% more attack for 2 less MP. Not bad.

2nd 121

Spoiler

Dagger Mastery: Improves the mastery of daggers
Max Level 20:
Pre-Big Bang: 60% Mastery (Not added, but total), +20 Accuracy
Post-Big Bang: +50% Mastery (Not total, but added), +60 Accuracy.[/b]
Formula: +Mastery = 10%+2%*Skill Level; Accuracy + 3*Skill Level
The Big-Bang gives Bandits a 20% base Mastery, with Max Mastery one would go up to 70% Mastery (20base+50Skill). This means that you are getting 10% extra Mastery and 40 extra Accuracy. The Accuracy System has been changed so we probably won’t need it, but it comes free with the Mastery

Dagger Booster: Use MP to increase the weapon's attack speed by two stages. Can only be used with daggers. Requires Level 5 Dagger Mastery.
Max Level 20:
Pre-Big Bang: HP -10, MP -10; Improves dagger speed for 200 seconds.
Post-Big Bang: -11 MP, increases the attack speed for 200 seconds.
Formula: Duration = 10*Skill Level
Delay: 600ms
Dagger Booster no longer uses HP but it takes one more MP, nothing really big.

Haste: Increase the speed and jumping ability of everyone in the party.
Max Level 20: -30 MP, +40 speed, +20 jump for 200 seconds.
Formula: Duration = 10*Skill Level; Speed=2*Skill Level; Jump= Skill Level
Delay:600ms
There is no change here. But then again, there is no reason for them to change it.

Steal: Hit multiple enemies one time, with a chance to steal one of the enemy's items, as well as stunning the enemies. Requires Level 5 Haste.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -24, Steal chance: 40%, Stun: 4 sec, Damage: 130%, attacks up to 4 enemies
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 20: -24 MP, Steal change 40%, Stun: 4 sec, Damage 300%, attacks up to 4 enemies.
Formula: Damage = 200% + 5%*Skill Level; Level 1-6: 2 Second Stun, 2 Monsters Attacked; Level 7-13: 3 Second Stun, 3 Monsters Attacked; Level 14-20: 4 Second Stun, 4 Monsters Attacked
Delay: 600ms
The Damage increased by 170% per attack, meaning a total of 680% Damage increase. It also requires 10 less Skill Points for Max Level.

Savage Blow: Deal very fast consecutive attacks. It attacks 6 times.
Max Level 30:
Pre-Big Bang: -27 MP; Attack 6x with 80% Damage.
Post-Big Bang: -26 MP, Attack 6x with 90% Damage.
Formula: Damage per Hit = 60% + 1%*Skill Level
Delay: 720ms
An increase of 10% Damage per hit, which is a total of 60% Damage increase. Also it now attacks 6x regardless of Level. Meaning that Level 1 Savage Blow>Maxed Dagger Booster.

Endure: Additional recover of HP and MP, you do not need to be on a ladder.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 20: Recovers an additional 100 HP and 40 MP every 10 seconds
Post-Big Bang: The skill gets deleted from our Skill Book.
We got a new skill called Shadow Resistance but we lost Endure. I do actually like Endure, I find the extra 40 MP every 10 seconds useful. But I prefer Shadow Resistance over Endure.

New Skill
Shadow Resistance: Increases your affinity with the darkness by permanently increasing maximum HP and resistance to status afflictions and elemental attacks.
Max Level 20: +10% maximum HP, 20% immunity to status, +20% resistance to all elements.
Formula: Skill Level = % Immunity Status = +% Resistance to all elements; +% Max HP=Round-Up(1/2*Skill Level)
It works as a passive Hyper Body and Elemental Resistance combined. Not as good as the Spearman’s Hyper Body or the Priest’s Elemental Resistance, but it is a nice addition to the Bandit’s passive skills.

3rd 151

Spoiler

Shield Mastery: Increase the Physical and Magic defense if a shield is equipped.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 20: Defensive power of the Shield +100% when shield is equipped
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 10: Increase physical and magic defense with 100%.
Formula: +Physical and Magical Defense = 10%*Skill Level
Shield Mastery used to be the most useless Skill in a Chief Bandit’s Skill Book because it only doubled the defense of the Shield. But Post - Big Bang it doubles the defense of the Character, not only the Shield. Also it now takes 10 less Skill Points for the Skill to be maxed. Not a bad improvement at all. Still not a top priority Skill though. For a chart to see how much Shield Mastery helps in diminishing Damage please go to the Defense Calculations Section in Part II of the Guide.

Chakra: Use MP to recover your HP. Can only be used with less than half of your maximum HP.
Pre – Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -27, Recovery rate 300%, Damage 112% during recovery if hit
Post – Big Bang: Max Level 10: -140 MP, 300% Recovery. 60% Damage received if hit while using Chakra.
Formula: Recovery Rate = 100% + 20%*Skill Level, Damage received = 100% - 4*Skill Level
Delay: 1500ms
Chakra was improved, there is no argument there. Mastery Level was reduced, cast time was reduced and Damage received was reduced too.

Assaulter: Attacks a single enemy with incredible power and speed. The enemy may be stunned.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -26, Damage: 500%, Stun chance: 80%
Post-Big Bang:Max Level 20: -24 MP, 290% Damage with 3 hits, 80% chance to stun for 4 seconds.
Formula: Damage per hit = 230% + 3%*Skill Level; Chance of Stun = 20% + 3%*Skill Level; Stun Duration = 2s for Level 1-9, 3s for Level 10-19, 4s for Level 20
Delay: 900ms
I love this. 290%*3 = 870%, that means a 370% Damage Increase. I don’t quite see why they needed to split the attacks into three medium attacks instead of just one big attack. But the end result is still awesome nonetheless. And we get 10 Free Skill Points.

Pickpocket:Mesos will fall off the enemy while attacking it. It requires Level 3 Meso Explosion.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 20: MP -50; Success rate 60% for 180 seconds
Post-Big Bang:Max Level 10: -50 MP, 60% chance that Mesos will fall off the enemy for 150 seconds.
Formula: Duration = 100 + 5*Skill Level; Chance to drop Mesos = 10% + 5%*Skill Level
Delay: 900ms
10 Free Skill Points, I Love it. It is 30 seconds shorter than before but no big deal. From what I have seen the Pickpocket + Meso Explosion Combination is everything but useless even at Fourth Job Post – Big Bang. For more information visit the Pickpocket + Meso Explosion Combination in Part II of the Guide.

Band of Thieves: Summon fellow robbers to hit multiple enemies.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 30: -25 MP, summons 5 bandits for 250% Damage.
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 20: -30 MP, attack up to 5 enemies for 395% Damage.
Formula: Damage = 315% + 4%*Skill Level; Level 1-9: 3 Targets, Level 10-19: 4 Targets, Level 20: 5 Targets
Delay: 600ms
I absolutely adore this Skill. It is one of my favorite Skills as a Chief Bandit, and the fact that it is stronger and faster to Max now makes it even better. We get an increase of 145% Damage per enemy, which means that it can go up to an 860% Damage Improvement. To make it even better, our Range has been increased, mostly our Range to hit monsters behind us. See this Youtube Video to get a better idea of how large our range is now. I am not certain on whether the description is right on how many targets Band of Thieves hits. As you probably know, Pre-Big Bang Band of Thieves summons 5 Bandits, but your dagger itself can also hit a Mob, thus making it 6 targets. I can’t find any definite proof on whether Post – Big Bang it is 5 Mobs total, or 5 Mobs attacked by the summons and 1 Mob attacked by the dagger. We are going to have to wait until the Big Bang hits Global Maple Story. We do get 10 Free Skill Points, though. I just Love this Skill.

Meso Guard: Use Mesos to guard 50% of the Damage. Damage reduction and consumption rates vary by skill Level. Meso Guard requires Level 3 Chakra.
Max Level: Meso cost is 61% of the mitigated Damage, 180 seconds duration.
Pre-Big Bang: Max Level 20, -35 MP
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 10, -37 MP
Formula: Duration = 120 + 6*Skill Level; Mesos Consumption Rate = 81%-2%*Skill Level
Delay: 900ms
It works exactly the same except that we can Max it half as fast now, pretty cool in my opinion.

Meso Explosion: Explodes Mesos on the ground to attack monsters.
Pre-Big Bang: MP -30; Mastery 100%, explode up to 20.
Post-Big Bang: Max Level 20: -30 MP, 180% Damage per attack, up to 10 enemies, up to 15 bags explode.
Formula: Damage = 100% + 4%*Skill Level; Number of Targets = 5 + Round-up (Skill Level/4); Number of Bags = 5 + Round-down (Skill Level/2)
Delay: 750ms
Meso Explosion has been nerfed and improved at the same time. For more information in how Meso Explosion’s Damage is now calculated please visit the Pickpocket + Meso Explosion Combination Section in Part II of the Guide.

New Skill
Dark Flare: Summon Dark Lord's giant Shuriken to reflect attacks. The Shuriken reflects damage whenever an enemy attacks nearby party members within range. Cannot reflect more than half of the target's maximum HP.
Max Level 20: -100 MP, summons Dark Flare for 60 seconds, reflects 1300% of Damage dealt. Cool-down: 60 Seconds
Formula: Duration: 20 + 2*Skill Level; Damage = 300% + 50%*Skill Level; Cool-down = 260s for Level 1-3, 220s for Level 4-7, 180s for Level 8-11, 140s for Level 12-15, 100s for Level 16-19, 60s for Level 20
Delay: 600ms
Dark Flare works nicely when luring or bossing. When luring, you get all the Monsters in one area and then spam BoT, if you lure them to the place where Dark Flare was summoned then it will be constantly attacking, because you will be in the nearby range. When bossing, if the boss is not moving, the concept is the same as luring, you can stay in the nearby range of Dark Flare. For this two cases Dark Flare may speed up training (or Bossing) a bit. For information on how the Reflected Damage is Calculated please visit the Dark Flare Section in Part II of the Guide.

New Skill
Shadow Partner: Summon a shadow that will attack with you for a period of time. Requires a Summon Rock.
Max Level 20: -80 MP, summon a shadow for 180 seconds that deals 50% of the Damage you're dealing.
Formula: Damage: 10% + 2%*Skill Level; Duration: 60s for Level 1-5, 100s for Level 6-11, 140s for Level 12-17, 180s for Level 18-20
Delay: 1500
It’s OK if you piss your pants now. Shadow Partner is not exactly a “New” Skill because Hermits have had it since Third Job came out. But, it is new to us Bandits, or Chief Bandits to be more precise. There are no words to describe how happy I am to have this Skill, it’s just wow.

New Skill
Flash Jump: Performs a second jump in the air. The higher the Skill Level, the further you'll jump.
Max Level 20: -12 MP, jump a certain distance.
Formula: MP Consumption: 52 – 2*Skill Level
Just as Shadow Partner this is not quite a “New” Skill because Hermits have it. But, to us Chief Bandits it is new. Although it is not as good as Shadow Partner, I will take it happily.

4th Fatevi i conti f3

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Shadow Shifter: Increases the chance of evading enemy attacks by replacing yourself with a wooden puppet.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Shadow Shifter 40% chance to avoid
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Fake 45% chance to avoid
Formula: Chance to Avoid = 15% + 1%*Skill Level
It was slightly improved by 5%.

Venom:Permanently puts potion to the dagger. Poison can only bring down an enemy's HP to 1, not kill them.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Attack: 60, Duration: 8 sec, Poison chance: 50%
Max Level 30: 40% chance of poison, 140% damage per second for eight seconds
Formula: Chance to Poison = 10% + 1%*Skill Level; Damage per Second = 50% + 3%*Skill Level; Duration = 3 + Round-down (Skill Level/6)
No comments due to having a very small knowledge about DoT.

New Skill
Greed: Increases the efficiency of Meso-related skills.
Max Level 10: 20% increased Meso drop rate, +20% Pickpocket chance, Meso Guard +10% guarded damage, Meso Guard 20% reduced cost, Meso Explosion +60% damage per explosion
Formula: +Meso Guard Guarded Damage = 1%*Skill Level; +Meso Drop Rate = +Pickpocket Chance = Meso Guard Reduced Cost = 2%*Skill Level; +Meso Explosion Damage per Explosion = 6% Skill Level
I might not know much about Fourth Job, but I know that this Skill is amazing. It does not only make Meso Guard better, thus increasing our effective maxHP, but it also makes the Pickpocket and Meso Explosion combination stronger. And the extra Drop Rate is also welcome

Maple Warrior: Increases stats by a certain percentage for everyone in the party.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: -70 MP, increase all the stats with 15% for everyone in the party for 900 seconds
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: -70 MP, increase all the stats with 15% for everyone in the party for 900 seconds
Formula: Duration = 30*Skill Level; Increase in Stats = 1%*Round-up (Skill Level/2)
Delay: 1500ms

Assassination: Exit Dark Sight to attack an enemy 4 times for incredible damage. The final attack can deal critical damage, and damage increases while in Dark Sight.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Attack 120%, for 12 seconds, accumulative damage, Critical Damage 250%, for success rate 90%
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: -44 MP, 560% damage for 4 hits, the total damage for 8 seconds in Dark Sight.
Formula: Damage = 380% + 6%*Skill Level; Dark Sight duration = 3s + Round-up (Skill Level/7)
Delay: 1380ms

Taunt: Provoke up to 6 enemies. Targets acquire increased defense and higher experience and item drop rates. It requires Shadow Shifter Level 10.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Increases the Defense, EXP and Drop-Rate of the enemy by 40%
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: Increases the enemies’ Defense, EXP and Drop-Rate by 40%
Formula: +Target Defense = +Experience = +Drop-Rate = 10% + 1%*Skill Level
Delay: 1020ms

Ninja Ambush: A group of ninjas hiding in the bushes will ambush up to 6 monsters at once. HP cannot fall below 1.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -43, Damage 100%, for 12 seconds, attack range 200%
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -44, 200% damage, 14 seconds duration
Formula: Damage = 80% + 4%*Skill Level, Duration = 4 + Round-up (Skill Level/3)
Delay: 1500ms

Smoke Shell: Scatter around bombs and hide in the smoke. All party members will not be hit while being in the smoke.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 30: -45 MP, 60 seconds smoke. Cool-down 10 minutes
Max Level 30: -46 MP, 60 seconds smoke. Cool-down: 6 minutes
Formula: Duration = 30 + Skill Level
Delay: 1440ms

Boomerang Step: Hit multiple enemies by attacking them two times, with a chance to stun the enemies.
Pre - Big Bang: MP -26, Attacks 4 enemies, damage 500%, stun with success rate 90%
Post - Big Bang: Max Level 30: MP -40, 600% each attack, up to 4 enemies, 90% stun chance for 4 Seconds. Passive effect: +25% damage to Savage Blow, Steal, Assaulter and Band of Thieves
Formula: Damage = 450% + 5%*Skill Level; Chance for Stun = 30% + 2%*Skill Level; Number of Enemies = Level 1-14: 2 Mobs, Level 15-29: 3 Mobs, Level 30: 4 Mobs; +Passive Effect Damage on Savage Blow, Steal, Assaulter and Band of Thieves = 5% + 2%*Round-Down (Skill Level/3)
Delay: 690ms

Hero's Will: Shrug off abnormal conditions.
Pre - Big Bang: Max Level 5: -30 MP, 360 seconds Cool-down
Max Level 5: -30 MP, 360 seconds Cool-down
Formula: Cool-down=660-60*Skill Level

Tutto questo perchè fabio su msn spamma di copiare e incollare la roba perchè quel topic è troppo lungo, ma alla fine anche questi non sono... f3

[Fabio~]

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Tutto questo perchè fabio su msn spamma di copiare e incollare la roba perchè quel topic è troppo lungo, ma alla fine anche questi non sono... f3

blabla bla

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ty <3

[Tesla]

Assassin

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Summary - 1st
Nimble Body - 20 (MAXED)
Keen Eyes - 5 (MAXED)
Disorder - 6
Dark Sight - 10 (MAXED)
Lucky Seven - 20 (MAXED)
Double Stab - 0

Summary- 2nd
Claw Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Throw - 30 (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance - 20 (MAXED)
Claw Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Haste - 20 (MAXED)
Drain - 11

(io ho optato per un 18 booster 13 drain che poi con il 3rd si finiscono di maxare ma perche sono ancora al 3rd)

Summary - 3rd
Alchemist - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Up - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Web - 0
Shadow Meso - 0
Avenger - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 20 (MAXED)
[Drain - 20 (MAXED)]
[SP remaining: 22] <- per booster e drain poi quel che ti pare

4th non ne ho idea però di sicuro
1-fake
1-venom
1-tt
1-spirit claw

Bandit

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Summary - 1st
Nimble Body - 20 (MAXED)
Keen Eyes - 0
Disorder - 10 (MAXED)
Dark Sight - 10 (MAXED)
Lucky Seven - 1
Double Stab - 20 (MAXED)


Summary - 2nd
Dagger Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance - 20 (MAXED)
Dagger Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Haste - 20 (MAXED)
Steal - 11
Savage Blow - 30 (MAXED)

Summary - 3rd
Shield Mastery - 10 (MAXED)
Chakra - 3
Assaulter - 20 (MAXED)
Pickpocket - 10 (MAXED)
Band of Thieves - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Guard - 10 (MAXED)
Meso Explosion - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 18
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)

Summary - 4th (personalmente)
Venom - 1
Boomerang Step - 30 (Maxed)
Greed - 10 (Maxed)
SS - 30 (Maxed)
Assassinate - 30 (Maxed)
Smokescreen - 1
... non so se ho dimenticato qualcosa

Corsair

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Summary - 1st
Bullet Time - 20 (MAXED)
Straight - 0
Somersault Kick - 11
Double Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Dash - 10 (MAXED)


Summary - 2nd
Gun Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Shot - 10 (MAXED)
Invisible Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Grenade - 1
Gun Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Fake Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Wings - 10 (MAXED)
Backstep Shot - 20 (MAXED)


Summary - 3rd
Triple Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Octopus - 30 (MAXED)
Gaviota - 21
Flamethrower - 20 (MAXED)
Ice Splitter - 20 (MAXED)
Homing Beacon - 20 (MAXED)
Lucky Dice - 20 (MAXED)

4th è del tutto personale
1 elemental boost
Max Ship
Max Cannon
Max Revenge
Max Torpedo
29 MW
1 support octo

il resto rapid fire

per il resto cercate su http://forums.asiasoftsea.net/forumdisplay.php?f=1
trovate tutto quello che vi serve

[Fabio~]

Assassin

Spoiler

Summary - 1st
Nimble Body - 20 (MAXED)
Keen Eyes - 5 (MAXED)
Disorder - 6
Dark Sight - 10 (MAXED)
Lucky Seven - 20 (MAXED)
Double Stab - 0

Summary- 2nd
Claw Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Throw - 30 (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance - 20 (MAXED)
Claw Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Haste - 20 (MAXED)
Drain - 11

(io ho optato per un 18 booster 13 drain che poi con il 3rd si finiscono di maxare ma perche sono ancora al 3rd)

Summary - 3rd
Alchemist - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Up - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Web - 0
Shadow Meso - 0
Avenger - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 20 (MAXED)
[Drain - 20 (MAXED)]
[SP remaining: 22] <- per booster e drain poi quel che ti pare

4th non ne ho idea però di sicuro
1-fake
1-venom
1-tt
1-spirit claw

Bandit

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Summary - 1st
Nimble Body - 20 (MAXED)
Keen Eyes - 0
Disorder - 10 (MAXED)
Dark Sight - 10 (MAXED)
Lucky Seven - 1
Double Stab - 20 (MAXED)


Summary - 2nd
Dagger Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Shadow Resistance - 20 (MAXED)
Dagger Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Haste - 20 (MAXED)
Steal - 11
Savage Blow - 30 (MAXED)

Summary - 3rd
Shield Mastery - 10 (MAXED)
Chakra - 3
Assaulter - 20 (MAXED)
Pickpocket - 10 (MAXED)
Band of Thieves - 20 (MAXED)
Meso Guard - 10 (MAXED)
Meso Explosion - 20 (MAXED)
Dark Flare - 18
Shadow Partner - 20 (MAXED)
Flash Jump - 20 (MAXED)

Summary - 4th (personalmente)
Venom - 1
Boomerang Step - 30 (Maxed)
Greed - 10 (Maxed)
SS - 30 (Maxed)
Assassinate - 30 (Maxed)
Smokescreen - 1
... non so se ho dimenticato qualcosa

Corsair

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Summary - 1st
Bullet Time - 20 (MAXED)
Straight - 0
Somersault Kick - 11
Double Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Dash - 10 (MAXED)


Summary - 2nd
Gun Mastery - 20 (MAXED)
Critical Shot - 10 (MAXED)
Invisible Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Grenade - 1
Gun Booster - 20 (MAXED)
Fake Shot - 20 (MAXED)
Wings - 10 (MAXED)
Backstep Shot - 20 (MAXED)


Summary - 3rd
Triple Fire - 20 (MAXED)
Octopus - 30 (MAXED)
Gaviota - 21
Flamethrower - 20 (MAXED)
Ice Splitter - 20 (MAXED)
Homing Beacon - 20 (MAXED)
Lucky Dice - 20 (MAXED)

4th è del tutto personale
1 elemental boost
Max Ship
Max Cannon
Max Revenge
Max Torpedo
29 MW
1 support octo

il resto rapid fire

per il resto cercate su http://forums.asiasoftsea.net/forumdisplay.php?f=1
trovate tutto quello che vi serve

ty harry <3
ottimo aggiungo subito
se le doppie sono uguali lascio altrimenti inserisco la variante